I'll answer the question with a waterfowling 1st bias and mentality.....My labs have always been really good upland dogs.....Do they point?.....Nope.....But, they find birds well (blush) and they retrieve like no other.....It's all about discipline (I've never used an e-collar).....And some of my labs over the years, have had very little of it, when it comes to pushing too far ahead of me.....The older they got, the better they got.....For the most part I have had the taller, longer legged labs.....Runners.....And were in great shape for chukar, quail, & pheasant.
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