SB 53......The latest

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Here's the latest from the NRA........DO NOT LET THE ANTI"S GET THEIR FOOT IN THE DOOR!

.http://campaign.r20.constantcontact.com/render?ca=e5f1768c-9a2c-4419-b3da-c3a9304c0d1e&c=9c082780-c7f2-11e3-b6c0-d4ae528e486a&ch=9c0da5c0-c7f2-11e3-b6c4-d4ae528e486a
 
The libtards come up with the most ridiculous ideas for new laws. Thanks for posting.

Quick and easy email to your assembly person letting them know you appose this BS.
 
People are worked up in a frenzy and desperate to do something. When you have a mob, the tendency is to give them some direction; even if it's the wrong direction.

I guess the intent of this bill is to prevent people from stockpiling ammo? The irony though is that it motivates me to start my stockpile now.
 
msteiger said:
People are worked up in a frenzy and desperate to do something. When you have a mob, the tendency is to give them some direction; even if it's the wrong direction.

I guess the intent of this bill is to prevent people from stockpiling ammo? The irony though is that it motivates me to start my stockpile now.
Absolutely. Looks like we can expect another run on ammo if this picks up any momentum. Thanks for posting Steve.


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SB 53 has passed!.......It will now go to Moonbeam's desk and wait for his signature.......Barring a miracle.........He will sign it......... ::)

The new version does state that "Hunters" will continue to be able to buy on line (with purchase of a hunting license).......And of course, they can take that out next year.

And Don, your right.............Start stocking up............ :mad:
 
How will they know if you have a licence if you order ammo from cabela's?
 
GmansGpa said:
How will they know if you have a licence if you order ammo from cabela's?

Good question............We'll probably have something related to our GO ID #...... Who knows?...... I'm guessing Cabela's and others may just quit selling ammo to individuals in California. As most of you know, we can't buy guns in other states already............ ::)

This whole bill is asinine............How votes for these people?............ :mad:
 
This is the analogy. Like the Tuna fish that has the net encircling it. where's it's halfway around. and does not know it's been caught. until it's to late.

Ghost
 
Ghost said:
This is the analogy. Like the Tuna fish that has the net encircling it. where's it's halfway around. and does not know it's been caught. until it's to late.

Ghost

Or the frog in the pot of water.........Just found out that it has not passed the assembly........Got this a few minutes ago from SCI.





Today at 1:52 PM






SCI - First For Hunters
In the Crosshairs – CALIFORNIA Edition

Ammunition Registration

SB 53 – MANDATORY AMMUNITION BUYER REGISTRATION LEGISLATION POSITIONED FOR VOTE THIS WEEK IN THE LEGISLATURE!!

ALL LAWFUL FIREARMS OWNERS AND BUYERS OF AMMUNITION SHOULD IMMEDIATELY CONTACT YOUR ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES. TELL THEM TO VOTE NO ON SB 53!
http://findyourrep.legislature.ca.gov/

SMOKE-AND-MIRRORS HUNTERS’ EXEMPTION AMENDMENT
DON’T BE FOOLED!

TAKE ACTION NOW: PROPOSED LEGISLATION WOULD BE DEVASTATING TO ALL LAWFUL USERS OF AMMUNITION!!!

SB 53 WOULD REQUIRE YOU TO GIVE YOUR PERSONAL INFORMATION AND A THUMBPRINT TO THE STATE BEFORE YOU CAN BUY ANY AMMUNITION OF ANY KIND IN CALIFORNIA!

BELOW IS A SUMMARY OF HOW THIS UNWARRANTED BILL WOULD AFFECT YOU AND INFRINGE ON YOUR SECOND AMENDMENTS RIGHTS!!

SB 53 (de Leon) Ammunition: purchase permits – Would apply to all ammunition purchases (not just handgun ammunition) and would thus reinstate the following provisions of law that were previously enacted but did not take effect because of a court ruling that the definition of handgun ammunition used was unconstitutionally vague:

• Ammunition sales could only be made in a “face to face” transaction, thus making internet and mail order ammunition sales illegal (note: there is a new amendment that would exempt licensed hunters from the “face to face” provision, but their purchases would still have to be registered);
• The vendor would have to record personal information about the purchaser, including obtaining a signature and thumbprint, and
• The brand, type, and amount of ammunition purchased would be recorded for each transaction. The purchaser would then be checked by the Department of Justice to determine if he or she is prohibited from owning firearms and ammunition.

SB 53 would apply to all ammunition (rifle, shotgun, and handgun), including hunting ammunition. Ammunition offered for sale could not be on display in a location that is accessible to customers without the assistance of the vendor or a vendor employee.

Ammunition vendors would have to obtain an ammunition vendor license from the Department of Justice.




It appears that the hunter exemption from the face to face requirement came from the Fish and Game Commission and the Director of the Department, Chuck Bonham, in an effort to facilitate and expedite the implementation of the ban on traditional ammunition (AB 711) which the Director supported.




It seems there is a belief on their part that non-lead ammunition can readily be purchased over the internet, even though ammunition retailers in California are finding it very difficult to obtain. They have indicated publicly that they can find it in catalogs, like Cabelas, and seem to think it is easy to obtain simply by ordering it. Apparently, they have made no effort to find out if it is currently available.


This amendment, portrayed as a measure to help hunters, may actually hurt them, instead, by helping to assure that SB 53 is passed!!!


IT IS CRITICAL THAT SB 53 BE STRONGLY OPPOSED


THIS BILL WOULD DO NOTHING TO SOLVE PROBLEMS INVOLVING THE ILLEGAL USE OF A FIREARM, BUT IT WOULD GREATLY INTERFERE WITH THE USE OF FIREARMS BY LAWFUL INDIVIDUALS FOR ALL LEGAL PURPOSES!!!



ALL LAWFUL FIREARMS OWNERS AND BUYERS OF AMMUNITION SHOULD IMMEDIATELY CONTACT THE FOLLOWING THREE PEOPLE AND URGE THEM TO VOTE NO ON SB 53!

Identify yourself as a HUNTER !

1) Governor Jerry Brown: Phone: 916-445-2841; FAX: 916-558-3160. To send an e-mail: http://gov.ca.gov/m_contact.php.
2) YOUR ASSEMBLY MEMBER
3) YOUR SENATOR

LOCATE your Assembly Member and Senator by your Address/Zipcode: Please go on line and enter http://findyourrep.legislature.ca.gov/ in your browser. Enter your street address, city and zip code in the boxes above the map of California; click on “Locate”. Your legislators and their contact information will then become available.


This bill will be taken up this week for a final vote.
Please make your calls, faxes and/or e-mails TODAY and let your elected officials know that you oppose this bill!

Hunters say NO to SB 53!

Please Note: An item in the body of text that is underlined and in blue ink is an embedded link. Holding the Control Key and clicking with your mouse will take you to a web link with additional information.
 
I haven't seen yet, would this also affect powder and bullets for reloading?
 
Great news...........SB 53 has been defeated!......Got this this morning.

Today at 7:24 AM




Dear SDCWF Delegates,

SB 53 has been defeated! See the official notice below. Thanks to all of you who wrote in, called your legislator, or sent an e-mail.

Regards,
Bob Smith
President, San Diego County Wildlife Federation




Tracking Notification:


SB-53: Ammunition: purchase permits.



On 30-AUG-14 the following history action was applied:


"Read third time. Refused passage."
 

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