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The division in politics is just as bad in the public. Be ready
Debates used to help sway the undecideds but, since there aren't many of those anymore, the outcome will be in the eye of the beholder. Although the media will make this all about Trump being interruptive, he made much stronger points than Biden when it came to his record in appointing judges, rebuilding the military, and the economy.
And that! Biden couldn't say he supports law enforcement when pressed by Trump, obviously..
I am not surprised. Biden is no quality candidate, he spent his vice president tenure smiling seating by Obama. Maybe Trump has learned to be more strategic during debates too. That could earn him some undecided voters support that quite frankly he could use.
At the end of the day Trump had everything to loose and Biden had everything to gain. People were watching Biden to see if he could form a complete sentence , and he did , so he wins. Trump actually debated both Biden and Wallace , worst preseidential debate I've ever watched listened too.
And if you were a Trump supporter , you are still a Trump supporter and if you were a Biden supporter , you are still a Biden supporter.
With our entire country being so devided I can't possibly see who an individual can be undecided , baffling .
And if you were a Trump supporter , you are still a Trump supporter and if you were a Biden supporter , you are still a Biden supporter.
With our entire country being so devided I can't possibly see who an individual can be undecided , baffling .
I know my comments on politics are perceived like the turd in the punch bowl, but last night was bad for the country.
Biden isn't up to it, but Trump is leading the Republican party into obscurity. I don't believe Trump won over a single independent or undecided voter. Think about that for a minute.
One party rule in this state is a catastrophe, but the Republican leadership has focused more on getting a limited number of politicians elected vs. creating a broad coalition to compete with the Democrats.
If the Republicans lose the senate and the presidency, and the house goes further blue - the whole country will get the California treatment.
All the Californians leaving to Texas are going to vote blue. Good luck making laws with NY, CA, and TX as blue states.
Trump leads with a single demographic: white males 45-60, and the only demographic that is still undecided are Latinos (mostly because they don't buy the identity politics bullshit and think of themselves as Americans first). Did he win the Latino voters last night?
As General Shinseki said: "If you dislike change, you're going to dislike irrelevance even more."
Biden isn't up to it, but Trump is leading the Republican party into obscurity. I don't believe Trump won over a single independent or undecided voter. Think about that for a minute.
One party rule in this state is a catastrophe, but the Republican leadership has focused more on getting a limited number of politicians elected vs. creating a broad coalition to compete with the Democrats.
If the Republicans lose the senate and the presidency, and the house goes further blue - the whole country will get the California treatment.
All the Californians leaving to Texas are going to vote blue. Good luck making laws with NY, CA, and TX as blue states.
Trump leads with a single demographic: white males 45-60, and the only demographic that is still undecided are Latinos (mostly because they don't buy the identity politics bullshit and think of themselves as Americans first). Did he win the Latino voters last night?
As General Shinseki said: "If you dislike change, you're going to dislike irrelevance even more."
Societal cancer.
Trump is his same obnoxious and full of him self. Joe's "vision" for "gun violence" is most radical and egregious attack on the 2a I've seen. I was reading though the props last night and one of them basically wants to make racism from an employer legal again. I just see the chit show getting worse regardless of the results to be honest.
Trump is his same obnoxious and full of him self. Joe's "vision" for "gun violence" is most radical and egregious attack on the 2a I've seen. I was reading though the props last night and one of them basically wants to make racism from an employer legal again. I just see the chit show getting worse regardless of the results to be honest.
Our two party system delivered a narcissistic agent of chaos, and doddering old fool, so yeah, more chit show coming up.
Meanwhile: unemployment, identity politics, loss of rights (!st and 2a) and CHINA!!! The CCP and PLA think we are weak and for the taking.
Out international standing has been massively diminished over the last four years. People in other countries feel sorry for us. We are Americans WTF!!!
Meanwhile: unemployment, identity politics, loss of rights (!st and 2a) and CHINA!!! The CCP and PLA think we are weak and for the taking.
Out international standing has been massively diminished over the last four years. People in other countries feel sorry for us. We are Americans WTF!!!
Over simplified for sure, but does make it real easy to make a decision if you ask yourself...
Do you want Less Government oversight/reach, taxes, and influence in your life?
Do you want More Government and Socialistic behaviors in your government and in your life?
The rest is just noise.
Do you want Less Government oversight/reach, taxes, and influence in your life?
Do you want More Government and Socialistic behaviors in your government and in your life?
The rest is just noise.
Since we've decided to turn this forum into a political forum , let's play.
Monyako , I have to adamantly disagree with you. On one HUGE point , Trump is not recieving legitemate press coverage and I'll date myself but for decades you could not turn on the TV and not see a palastinian blowing something or someone up , it was like a daily occurance , and year after year decade after decade politician after politician tried and failed to end this violence. Trump has essentially ended it. He's nominated for the Nobel peace prize by two other countries , the United States did not nominate him , two other countries did. So I do believe that for the most part other countries like him and perhaps they like him more than his own constituants.
If China thought we were weak , they would've already taken us.
Our international standing was questioned 4 years ago when our former president allowed Iran to obtain weapon grade nuculer material , which thankfully our present president has put a stop to.
That being said , President Trump was not my candidate 4 years ago , I don't sit back and drink the koolaid but for Gods sake give the man credit where credit is due .
@A Team - you make many points I agree with:
Re:Obama and Iran - you are 100% correct
Re:MSM - 100% correct - they will never give Trump credit for anything
Re:China - China plays a long game and we are early in on this. Also, Trump has done more to standup to them than anyone else
Re:Middle East Peace - I don't feel like I know enough to say anything useful. I also don't care about that entire SHole of a region. We have energy independence and they can fight as much as they want. No more Americans should die for their issues
However, I think the chaos comment is still accurate:
The needless racial divisions and the acceleration of grievance between Americans...inflamed by Trump. The chaos and failed response to COVID, more Trump. Distrust of experts and institutions like the CDC more Trump. The two faced comments about vote by mail and election fraud...Trump.
I don't think I have TDS, but 2020 has been the worst year for Americans in my life, and he is the President.
Re:Obama and Iran - you are 100% correct
Re:MSM - 100% correct - they will never give Trump credit for anything
Re:China - China plays a long game and we are early in on this. Also, Trump has done more to standup to them than anyone else
Re:Middle East Peace - I don't feel like I know enough to say anything useful. I also don't care about that entire SHole of a region. We have energy independence and they can fight as much as they want. No more Americans should die for their issues
However, I think the chaos comment is still accurate:
The needless racial divisions and the acceleration of grievance between Americans...inflamed by Trump. The chaos and failed response to COVID, more Trump. Distrust of experts and institutions like the CDC more Trump. The two faced comments about vote by mail and election fraud...Trump.
I don't think I have TDS, but 2020 has been the worst year for Americans in my life, and he is the President.