for an update...i got a 2 nice deer back east...one in pennsy and one in CT...both with the rifle but i let them get within bow range before dropping the hammer...alot of snow,ice,fog and wind on this trip...along with some low teens in the temp. range...hunting from the tree stand was a bit of a challenge tho...was battling a case of vertigo the whole trip...so being in a tree and looking thru the forest was tough at times but I pulled through...