People posting spots on the net and the fires in Angeles NF...
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Why no pics Paul? He is about 97 - 104. Why don't you post a few pics Paul and let us guess? He is above average.I tried to measure mine with the B&C scoring diagram and I obviously did it wrong. Steve, can I bring it over and have you measure it? I'm just curious to see how to do it right and so I have a starting point to try and beat next time.
Here are some good I have got in d16What are the average scores for mule deer in San Diego? What is the biggest score out of San Diego? Whats your biggest final score for a local deer?
I dont know how to post photos anymore. Photobucket broke or went crazy and all my old photos are jacked up. I just have pics on my phone and dont know how to upload them to this site. I can do it on Facebook because there is a button for dummies like me to push and upload.Why no pics Paul? He is about 97 - 104. Why don't you post a few pics Paul and let us guess? He is above average.
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Here are some good I have got in d16
What you’ve never seen big bucks before?Im a little suspicious about you killing all these bucks.
I would think many Folks, if not most, would be surprised at just how big some bucks do get in San Diego county. Like anywhere, you need genetics, feed and AGE. Just take an evening trip to the Wild Animal Park when they are in velvet and you would be SHOCKED at the size of some of the bucks in there! A couple short hikes in Cuyamaca State Park during the rut and you will see some real dandy's as well. I took a local buck a few years back in which your hand would barley fit around it's antler at the fork...had 5 on one side and 3 on the other. That buck was aged at 9 years...OLD for San Diego! Would have loved too have found him a couple years earlier as he had unbelievable mass but looked to have been going down hill.
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Oh, no doubt I've seen plenty of BIG bucks with lots of points on them (the two spots you listed as well as a few other spots that I don't have permission to hunt)! It's just that the majority of bucks that I've seen in person and all of the ones I've harvested, all on public land, have been forks. I'll admit, I've been out of the hunting scene for several years for personal reasons so I don't have any recent info, but I've been following along this site as well as others. I do have an A22 that will see some cold weather mornings in a few weeks...
That all depends on the hunter. I can go to several spots on public land almost anytime during the year and see Big Bucks with lots of points. Its getting to them and making the long shot thats the challenge. Most guys run into a fork first and its over. From what ive seen the smaller bucks get pushed out of these hard to reach areas that hold big bucks by the big bucks.Just my opinion... but I believe D16 has a higher percentage of hunters that measure success on the "kill" rather than the hunt itself. There is nothing wrong with this but it does mean, in most cases, that anything legal is going down....even the younger/smallest forks and even does. On top of that, with forks being legal and the number of doe tags allowed...the only thing you can't take is a spike. There have been many studies that show that a spike is actually a genetically inferior deer. I sure would love to see it go to "visible horns" like almost every other state. I think you would see an increase in the available age class as most San Diego hunters would be just fine with a spike and you would be culling the inferior genetics. Too many doe tags is another issue all together.
I can tell you that as soon as the "hunt" became more important than the "kill" , that average size of the bucks I have taken became substantially larger!
In short...D16 is managed for opportunity over quality, and the occasional BIG one that hits the dirt is just proof of what could be if managed differently.