Shout out to Snakecharmer

Ahidog

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Killed a 3 foot buzzworm today at my duck club. I decided to see if my lab remembered what Snakecharmer taught her about snakes so I brought it home and put it in the front yard she walked up to it but the second she recognized the smell she was straight back to the house. Thank you Fred.

I highly recommend this training you just never know.
 
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Snake Charmer

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Ahi, Glad it turnned out well. I don't recommend testing a dog with a dead snake, once the head is gone the scent of blood comes into play and as we know dogs like blood so that may become attractive to them. Also if the dog goes in on it and there is no consequence (shock collar stimulation) the dog might believe that it is OK to approach one in the future. I tell folks that if you are happy with what you saw during the training leave it alone if not let me know and I can show you many different scenarios to confirm the dog understands that the snake is a threat. I also tell folks that aversion training is not snake proofing the dog must recognize the threat to avoid it and if they don't recognize the presence of the snake all bets are off. This is why I also urge people to explore the prebite vaccines that are available but do your homework on this as there is controversy surrounding it and you should educate yourself with several different sources and make your own decision about it. Also if you have an encounter and are concerned about what happened with the dogs ability to recognize the snake after training I will retrain your dog at no charge during the same year.
 

Ahidog

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Yep vaccinations are ongoing too. Good to know about the dead snake too. I won’t be doing it again. I hope it’s a training I never have to see the results of in the wild but super happy with the outcome so far. Especially after I found out our backhoe guy has run over 6 in the last couple weeks working on our ponds
 

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Yep vaccinations are ongoing too. Good to know about the dead snake too. I won’t be doing it again. I hope it’s a training I never have to see the results of in the wild but super happy with the outcome so far. Especially after I found out our backhoe guy has run over 6 in the last couple weeks working on our ponds
Also to all that are reading this one training is not enough for sure to keep a dog safe. Personally I recommend to my clients that if they are hunting a dog they should train it every year during its career. Some dogs are smarter than others and retain training better but why take a chance.... I at the least recommend three to four years annualy and then once in awhile after that. If the dog spends lot of time in the field they will self train once they get a good foundation and won't need much more.
 
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Snake Charmer

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Snake Charmer- I have a dog that needs the snake avoidance training. Do you do classes? when? where? thanks
Check my website (High On Kennels ) there is a calendar there showing dates, locations and contact info to register with the host organization. I also do training at my ranch in Santa Ysabel but am only available on certain weekdays for that.
 

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I don't think the blood is a big deal if the snake isn't dead too long. Those buzz worms have a distinct smell to them for sure!

Experience in the field is always a teaching situation on dead or alive snakes
 

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