im not new but this is my first thread. ive been bird hunting for 4 years now, mostly in az along the river due to having a place there. ive got a english pointer thats a good bird dog. i do good there but in 3 years of hunting here ive seen 0 birds. ive gone to the usual dfg places and some blm land but still nothing. i know the drought has an effect but i always see success here and hear from other hunters on my end of their birds that theyve gotten here. i also understand the reluctance to tell "your spots". a little direction and guidance would be greatly appreciated from me. ive gone down to salton sea area because i have a friend who goes there with his friends but is told he cant take me or tell me exactly where. i see his birds every year of quail and of all things pheasants! ive gone down there on my own but i only know of the dfg areas. ive never seen a bird. is it all "secret" areas or is there are real open areas that arent just private? also do you need permission from owners or do you work around them? ive heard south of I8 but where exactly? i only see farmland there. again, do i need permission? any help or direction would be appreciated from me and my dog.