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While I’m not even sure I will be able to hunt this coming season I am bothered by the apparent disregard of long time Wister hunters . I understand water control but the days of smaller panels where blinds could be built , ducks felt some security, birds didn’t blow all the way across huge ponds with the wind are gone . We had ponds that held food for them and we weren’t stuck after getting our 1 pintail (now 3 I know) . Thanks for the gravel but another area taken out of service . Larry , aka Oldquack 49
 
While I’m not even sure I will be able to hunt this coming season I am bothered by the apparent disregard of long time Wister hunters . I understand water control but the days of smaller panels where blinds could be built , ducks felt some security, birds didn’t blow all the way across huge ponds with the wind are gone . We had ponds that held food for them and we weren’t stuck after getting our 1 pintail (now 3 I know) . Thanks for the gravel but another area taken out of service . Larry , aka Oldquack 49

Larry,

Being an old guy too, I feel your pain with this big pond philosophy, but it is what it is...Still plenty of smaller stuff for us...Only 5 months to go...........:blush:



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You have CWA funded by the people , we have no input on what to do with a grant intended for a public funded area makes no sense .
 
I tried. I called the lead for the project and expressed my concerns as well. Wister is not NorCal. It is not SJ. It will become an access issue for the older hunters making their way out to those freaking island Blinds. There are options on where to duck hunt other than Wister. However, there are still areas at Wister that you can hunt from the banks as well. The waterfowl season is really not that far off as well as the D16 opener. As a kid I used to get excited about Summer. I still do. Plenty of fishing and surfing to do. But, the fall is where it is at. That steady cool down in temps. The snap of the cold air. The sound of ducks flying overhead well before shoot time. And the constant hope that a nice Buck will make his way into the crosshairs of my Leupold scope.

John
 
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CWA has the knowledge and expertise to get state and federal money via grants, to better manage, and improve habitat. Thank goodness they do. WE'd never see improvements. Changes made such as new levees, swales and islands etc are well thought out between the refuge management and CWA biologists before any dirt work occurs. At the past few annual hunter meetings for the imperial valley refuges, Chadd S (CWA) has been on the zoom meetings explaining the rationale behind each project's goals (including islands and bump outs on the levee if you prefer to use). These guys are hunters. They understand the needs of hunters, and have to also do what is right for the unit, given the budgets provided in the grants.

The projects are designed to allow for "advanced wetland management practices"....and increase feed production moving forward.

All the blind locations are discussed, and mentioned in the annual hunter meetings. Locations are staked out and they have added island blinds with gravel paths to the blind from the levee.


I haven't used them, but I have used gravel paths in the Grasslands and elsewhere...and they are easier than walking the dirt clod levees I have used. Water improvements via swales etc, and less water gates to maintain, is a goal they are trying to achieve as well.

I understand older guys needs...62 years in the marsh and about to turn 72. You should be able to get ahold of these guys and express your concerns. But understand they are trying to make things better. Best of luck to us all this season.
 
Ya...but what's it do for the dove is the real question..?? Asking for a friend who is an avid dove shooter.
 
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Rather cart a marble dike with 100 yard mobility then hunt a shot up island in a to deep of a pond with no food.but that just me im not old just a wise hunter.
 
CWA has the knowledge and expertise to get state and federal money via grants, to better manage, and improve habitat. Thank goodness they do. WE'd never see improvements. Changes made such as new levees, swales and islands etc are well thought out between the refuge management and CWA biologists before any dirt work occurs. At the past few annual hunter meetings for the imperial valley refuges, Chadd S (CWA) has been on the zoom meetings explaining the rationale behind each project's goals (including islands and bump outs on the levee if you prefer to use). These guys are hunters. They understand the needs of hunters, and have to also do what is right for the unit, given the budgets provided in the grants.

The projects are designed to allow for "advanced wetland management practices"....and increase feed production moving forward.

All the blind locations are discussed, and mentioned in the annual hunter meetings. Locations are staked out and they have added island blinds with gravel paths to the blind from the levee.


I haven't used them, but I have used gravel paths in the Grasslands and elsewhere...and they are easier than walking the dirt clod levees I have used. Water improvements via swales etc, and less water gates to maintain, is a goal they are trying to achieve as well.

I understand older guys needs...62 years in the marsh and about to turn 72. You should be able to get ahold of these guys and express your concerns. But understand they are trying to make things better. Best of luck to us all this season.

Well put, Rick........... :clap:

The guys that do the most complaining don't even belong to CWA and put very little back into helping out with our local wildlife areas...Oh, probably the same guys that complained that CWA didn't do anything for SoCal too...No system or plan will make everybody happy, but CWA is the best at what they do on many fronts........:blush:
 
Some folks dont need to join a group or go once a year to clean up with a internet club are local wildlife areas are available all year to help out .
 
Some folks dont need to join a group or go once a year to clean up with a internet club are local wildlife areas are available all year to help out .

I would say that CWA is more than just a group...A non-profit that puts our money physically and politically in to what we love to do...And yes, no buddies stopping anyone from helping out at Wister or San J year round............. ;)
 
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Didn’t they put bump outs on the levees so you could still hunt on them if you prefer ( over an island)?
 
Didn’t they put bump outs on the levees so you could still hunt on them if you prefer ( over an island)?

Rick,

A few, but the majority of blind sites are islands...Plus, the ponds are so big that it's pretty tough getting birds to work in...As the veg starts growing back, it gets better (2-3 years)...One thing that hasn't happened is, they don't keep the salt cedar and tule growth out of the ponds (413 is a perfect example)...The salt cedar is a never ending battle, as are the tules...And, I don't know if it can ever be won.... :confused:
 

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