Ammo for SKYBUSTERS....

Tom said last year was the worst year he’d seen for skybusting, I wonder if this season will be worse. Also, the guy at Wister was pretty pissed because guys were dropping logs in the blinds. Tom and the Wister guy need to throw a big etiquette seminar at Bass Pro, featuring a powerpoint titled “top ten reasons not to take a dump in the blind.” Someone should get the word out to all the Wister hunters to bring Twix, Baby Ruth and Snickers to the blind on opening day next season. And then everyone can come back the next saturday to hear the fury.
 
I just hope there's a season on the public refuges & wildlife areas...Skybusting has been happening since shotguns were invented...And I'm quite sure it will continue with these shells or whatever folks can get... ;)
 
way back in 1976 i was just a peanut size lil guy and my dad took me to wister to watch him hunt. A guy a few dykes over shot a bird way way up and it sailed over to our side. You could hear the guy screaming MY BIRD BY BIRD! My dad a pretty bad ass dude said son if i kick this guys ass do not tell your mom. The dude ran over and picked up his bird and my dad in his sarcastic f you voice said " son you better run back now" he did and that was that. Later that day a guy had a limit of snows at the check station. warden was very impressed as no one had brought in a limit of sea gulls all day.


i knew then that duck hunting was for me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


ps. that was the lats time i ever set foot on wister . the old man did some work for some mobsters that duck hunt and we got invited to the LCRA
 
Great story, Bill...:joy:

I once had 2 young hunters turn in 14 grebes...I took the birds and told them to buy a bird ID book from Max... ;)
 
way back in 1976 i was just a peanut size lil guy and my dad took me to wister to watch him hunt. A guy a few dykes over shot a bird way way up and it sailed over to our side. You could hear the guy screaming MY BIRD BY BIRD! My dad a pretty bad ass dude said son if i kick this guys ass do not tell your mom. The dude ran over and picked up his bird and my dad in his sarcastic f you voice said " son you better run back now" he did and that was that. Later that day a guy had a limit of snows at the check station. warden was very impressed as no one had brought in a limit of sea gulls all day.


i knew then that duck hunting was for me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


ps. that was the lats time i ever set foot on wister . the old man did some work for some mobsters that duck hunt and we got invited to the LCRA
Oh man a limit of seagulls, I wish I was there to see that! You’d think after picking up the first seagull he would’ve thought to himself, “this thing isn’t very gooselike.”
 
As sad as it sounds, the crew a Wister needs to tighten up and get with the program.

1. The PM staff had a list with top blind results and were telling EVERYONE what blinds shot best when they asked. Even allowing people to take pictures of the list. I know bc they showed me and the guy told me to take a picture.

2. They were helping everyone in the morning with which blinds to pick. Put the time in and learn the refuge, if you don’t know, pick and learn. Sucks when your next in line and the guy working the site gives your spot away to the guy who asked “where should I go”.
 
As sad as it sounds, the crew a Wister needs to tighten up and get with the program.

1. The PM staff had a list with top blind results and were telling EVERYONE what blinds shot best when they asked. Even allowing people to take pictures of the list. I know bc they showed me and the guy told me to take a picture.

2. They were helping everyone in the morning with which blinds to pick. Put the time in and learn the refuge, if you don’t know, pick and learn. Sucks when your next in line and the guy working the site gives your spot away to the guy who asked “where should I go”.
When my dad and I started duck hunting three years ago we didn’t know what blinds to pick because it had been over 20 years since my dad had duck hunted at Wister and San J. I’ve gotten good draws for all the youth hunts so we’ve learned of a few good blinds at San J. Last year we had a couple good hunts at Wister as well. It adds to the excitement of drawing a reservation once you know about a few good blinds. I bet the new guys were happy about the list you speak of and thats about it. I guess Mendota guys don’t have that problem, they just have to worry about getting out to their spot before anyone else.
 
way back in 1976 i was just a peanut size lil guy and my dad took me to wister to watch him hunt. A guy a few dykes over shot a bird way way up and it sailed over to our side. You could hear the guy screaming MY BIRD BY BIRD! My dad a pretty bad ass dude said son if i kick this guys ass do not tell your mom. The dude ran over and picked up his bird and my dad in his sarcastic f you voice said " son you better run back now" he did and that was that. Later that day a guy had a limit of snows at the check station. warden was very impressed as no one had brought in a limit of sea gulls all day.


i knew then that duck hunting was for me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


ps. that was the lats time i ever set foot on wister . the old man did some work for some mobsters that duck hunt and we got invited to the LCRA
I used to know a guy named Wally Gober ( he has passed ), he was an insurance salesman and could sell ice cubes to eskimos in his day. He worked as a guide during the season in the valley and specialized in snows. He used a call that had a particuler sound to it that the geese could not resist, It was called a ha,ha, call and made by a local. He told me a couple of stories where some of the "Good fella's" came out to shoot and the snow's would commit suicide on the decoy's. The"boy"s had no sense of limits or hours and he had to leave the blind several times to preserve his guide license. There was a cleaning service in the valley back then and they would bring in a pick up truck load from the blind to be cleaned and would make the processing folks "a deal you could not refuse"
 
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As sad as it sounds, the crew a Wister needs to tighten up and get with the program.

1. The PM staff had a list with top blind results and were telling EVERYONE what blinds shot best when they asked. Even allowing people to take pictures of the list. I know bc they showed me and the guy told me to take a picture.

2. They were helping everyone in the morning with which blinds to pick. Put the time in and learn the refuge, if you don’t know, pick and learn. Sucks when your next in line and the guy working the site gives your spot away to the guy who asked “where should I go”.
Then youd hate sj and the help Tom gives to ppl triin to learn.sucks to hunt public bro. Get used to it.
 
Wister used to be bad ass.Heres a old report that used to be printed to help decide before picking.was really helpful.plus they did soo much more that they dont do anymore.h0802200052.jpg
 
Where do I start...1st off, Wister is a PUBLIC state hunting area...The area manager makes the decision, if they have a kill sheet or not...Or they help with sites in the morning...Some have, some haven't...The regulars hate it, the newbies want it...Tough position for whoever's working the check-in at Wister when someone asks, "Where should I go".

Gober and many others blew a Herter's Numara Ya Ya call...Most every snow goose hunter blows one these days and there's even a company (KO Outdoors) making them out of plastic/acrylic (originals were wood)...Bird cleaner was off of Main St. in Niland.

Those sheets were made out by staff...Now there's so little staff that is has fallen by the wayside...I used to do them for years for the opener at Wister (FOW forum)...Quit doing it about 5 years ago...It didn't divulge any "secrets", but it gave everyone at least an idea of what a site looked like.
 
Then youd hate sj and the help Tom gives to ppl triin to learn.sucks to hunt public bro. Get used to it.
If someone gets a good draw and is new, is Tom supposed to let them pick a crappy blind and waste their reservation? Reservations are hard to draw as everyone knows. I understand it would be frustrating if they recommend the blind you were going to pick to a new guy. But wouldn’t it also be frustrating if you’re the new guy and the staff lets you waste your reservation on a crappy blind and doesn’t give any recommendations?
 
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If someone gets a good draw and is new, is Tom supposed to let them pick a crappy blind and waste their reservation? Reservations are hard to draw as everyone knows. I understand it would be frustrating if they recommend the blind you were going to pick to a new guy. But wouldn’t it also be frustrating if you’re the new guy and the staff lets you waste your reservation on a crappy blind and doesn’t give any recommendations?

It is a given Tom will suggest the best blinds available...Have a back-up site, on a back-up site, on a back-up site, when going there...Just part of the public hunting game.

ps...Great reason to go to the work parties at San J...Get to know the area/sites, meet guys that may give you a tip, or may even invite you on a Ressie.
 
It is a given Tom will suggest the best blinds available...Have a back-up site, on a back-up site, on a back-up site, when going there...Just part of the public hunting game.

ps...Great reason to go to the work parties at San J...Get to know the area/sites, meet guys that may give you a tip, or may even invite you on a Ressie.
My dad says that years ago when he used to hunt San J they didn’t have the hogwire blinds, is that true?
 
If someone gets a good draw and is new, is Tom supposed to let them pick a crappy blind and waste their reservation? Reservations are hard to draw as everyone knows. I understand it would be frustrating if they recommend the blind you were going to pick to a new guy. But wouldn’t it also be frustrating if you’re the new guy and the staff lets you waste your reservation on a crappy blind and doesn’t give any recommendations?

Waste their reservation? Are you kidding me? What did you expect when you put your name in for the drawing in the first place? You knowingly put in for a wildlife area you knew nothing about. If you get drawn, deal with it and figure it out for yourself like everyone else before you has done. Did you want them to lay a red carpet down for you and carry you out to the blind and set your decoys up as well?
 
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Then youd hate sj and the help Tom gives to ppl triin to learn.sucks to hunt public bro. Get used to it.

this why I don’t hunt SJ. I made the mistake of putting in for SJ the first year i started hunting SoCal and got drawn an 11 pick. What a joke. Since that hunt I have never put in for another reservation at that place, not even opening day. I’d rather sweatline elsewhere than draw a top 10 pick at that excuse of a refuge. It’s sad. It has so much potential but the overcrowding of blinds and the Barney’s that hunt those blinds ruins it. If they took out half of those blinds that WA could actually shoot really well and you could have some quality hunts. Unfortunately they profit more from packing blinds into a small area and letting newbies blast away at anything they see.
 

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