THIS!NBK, Remember when I used to dig through the gut piles with the pigs we shot to look at bullets ? good times for sure with an education supplied, I was on Noslers back then and you were on Barnes both of different of calibers (.25 -06 for me and you did a 7 mag as I remember but you had others as well) they all ended up in the cooler no matter what. Then we did 338's with Barnes 210's on pigs and I got a double pass through on two pigs with one shot (another testiment as to energy that a bullet retains at distance). What I learned was my 25-05 with 115 Nosler partitions was good to go but solid copper Barnes went further penetration wise that we used with my double penetration Not apples to apples inventory but certainly gave evidence as to how two different bullets worked in the real world as well as weight and B.C factor's.. Bottom line we both took meat home without too great an effort.. Lesson here is as I have learned is put the pill no matter what size in the right place and then go get your animal butchered...