Hehe... you funny Revo. I'll betcha money... with as jacked-up as my shoulders are... and as inactive as they have been in my life of *now* (last five years, let's say)... that I could STILL probably push more weight than most mofos. I had weight-training all thru High-school and kept-on very consistently until about mid-40's when isht just started tearing on me whenever I'd try to push for higher weight. I can literally tear myself apart. And actually.... now that I think about... as a young man, I even fractured a clavicle one time when I fidgeted after taking a very heavy benchpress off the rack! My shoulders didn't feel right (probably a fold in my clothing or something) so I fidgeted and "rriiick!!"... something happened and I was all "Get it off! Get it off!!" so my spotter obliged.
And me pushing weight these days is hard to do too. After they did the sub-acromonial decompression on my dominant side to relieve the pressure into my bursa caused by a prior break to my clavicle making it now have a bend which caused the distal end of the clavicle to push down into the bursa constantly (something which would make it feel like I was getting stabbed with a javelin when trying to do military presses, for example)... to relieve that pressure they essentially ground-off the part of the clavicle that was pushing down into that bursa... as well as using that same rasp to rough-up the partial labral tear that brought me in for that surgery to begin with, on that side. Fixing the clavicle thing was just a bonus on that surgery.
So nowadays, as an example, I don't do bench on a straight bar anymore. Hurts too much. And... when doing dumbbell presses as a replacement... with all the looseness and play there is in that shoulder... it is no longer the tightness of all the ligaments and tendons which holds that shoulder joint in place. I mean... I does for normal daily stuff.. but when exerting... it is only thru the exertion of all those muscles all around the labrum that my shoulder is even held into place.
But like I said above... it's not the shoulder.. it's my collarbone on that side having a very "tented" shape to it from after a prior fracture it had from a MountainBike jump where I traversed a distance of 35 of my size 10 shoes placed heel-to-toe. I'd done it several times that day... but on that last attempt.... upon landing... the front inner tube on that particular bike (a Cross-Country full-suspension bike) popped from the repeated forces of that landing.. so the front-end knifed-under on me... so I tried to spot my landing and tuck-and-roll into it.. but there was just too much velocity involved and the hit that occurred onto the back of my shoulder was too fast, so the weak link is your clavicle. "Snap!" And it was a bear to heal too because of the way it 'naded into like 3 petals on the one side of the fracture. Was taking forever to heal, they eventually gave me a bone-growth stimulator which applies an electromagnetic field to the area to promote bone growth in your osteocytes.
Just for sh!ts and giggles Revo... I'd like for you to list at least 3 types of lifts that you feel I should be doing.. and then... I want you to list what are the max amounts of weight you personally can pull off in each of those lifts.
I mean... ya never know... you may surprise the heck out of me and be able to do some crazy amount, but I think this exercise would be fun in order to show you that (in my case) it has d!ck to do with shoulder strength. I say this because it sounds like your assumption is that I must be only able to do some pathetic amount or something. And honestly... I could use a challenge like this to motivate me right about now. So why the hell not.
