Last year, I just assumed they would be up the hill farther and not in such low trees...I had snuck in thru a river bed...Set-up in a strutting area...Not putting them to bed, cost me...I owl hooted too and never got a response...Hind sight tells me I should've set up on the opposite side of the little valley and most certainly will this year.
If I know there's a roost nearby or I know exactly where they are...I try to set up at about 100 to 150 yds away...And If I've patterned them, I try to get that angle to where hens start their daily routine route...If there's water close (and there always is), I will try to sneak in near that...Remember, it's the hens that are your greatest concern.