wait you guys actually pay for brown and yeller labs?
if you want started dogs the best place to look is the started lab groups on FB, yeah i know fb is the devil but its where you can find them. Out of state will save you a TON of money. if you are wanting a started dog around 18 months expect to pay 6k and up out of state. 20k might be more like it local.
Look for the trials washout dogs. They cant win a trails coemption but they sure can hunt ducks. The trials guys cycle though dogs a lot looking for the next winner.
nothing wrong with Steve Raney and his pups, I was told that i would be allowed to buy one from them. i got a dog from a trials guy in south dakota
long drive but worth the effort.