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I think I’ll just sell all my coot decoys and stay home this year, I read a conclusive study that the toxic algae at San J also carries the delta, trust the science.
 
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Don't be bringing that s*** to Cali
That shithole has enough problems..I know...I'll be there in 15 days...man I'd hate to be a buck or hog on Granny's farm..there will be blood.. lots.
 
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Dang this has turned into the "Young & Restless" opera... Shot or no shot we are all gonna die some day. Could be in a car accident, plane crash or something else. Definitely won't be from getting shot by another hunter in California while hunting mountain lions. They don't allow that here... LOL
 
"Like sands thru the hour glass...these are..the shots of our lives...." And dude..the whole shot from another hunter in cal is always a possibility...no orange required...people freaking over the d16 Forky running over the hill.....Larry....all kinds of opportunities for disaster...stay safe fellas..
 
I just read the CDC study, not more than 10 minutes ago. The gist of it is that with the Delta variant, fully vaccinated people, when they become infected, carry as many viral bodies as people who are unvaccinated when they become infected and can spread the disease just as easily as unvaccinated people. But, vaccinated people become less ill than the unvaccinated people. With the original variant, this was not the case. The viral load in vaccinated people was much less than in vaccinated people and they were far less capable of spreading it to others. This new study, released today, sadly, will probably become a game-changer and you can bet the mask mandates will reappear very, very, soon. With the emerging Lambda variant, it appears that the "experts" fear the vaccine may be only marginally effective, if at all effective. I guarantee you it will be a really rough fall and winter for all of us. If this pandemic proceeds as have pandemics in the past, there will be a new and more contagious variant emerging every 6 months or so.

This virus is "novel," in that nothing like it has ever been seen by science. The scientists make statements, represented as truths, but these statements are based upon what they know today. Tomorrow a new study is released and the statements from the day before are completely false. No wonder the American public is confused and more than a little bit pissed off.

I think that what I am stating in this post is true but in a day or two, new studies will emerge and perhaps everything that I am saying now will then be false.

Do what you feel is best for you and your loved ones, and be well.
You first mistake was reading what the CDC had to say, their director gives conflicting and verifiably false data constantly
 
Look up who funds the CDC....... This will tell you why some health care workers resist the CDC. Hell my one buddy is an ICU nurse he doesn't trust Pfizer. He's seen their shit kill people his whole career
 
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It is starting to look like those that got vaccinated are vulnerable.

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Thanks Sleepy Joe.. just read that he's squeezing federal civilians and contractors, of which I'm a part. He can't mandate vaccinations but he's requiring weekly (at least) testing, and just reinstated mask wearing on base indoors, including for those vaccinated (which I'm not). This is ridiculous already.
 
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I'm going to chime in and it will cost me some of my forum friends and put others to sleep, I'm sure. So be it. First, masks are very effective at blocking large bodies such as bacteria, fungi, and spores. If viral bodies were transmitted as discreet, individual units, masks would be totally ineffective. But that's not how it works. Viral bodies are transmitted en masse via water and mucous droplets [or blood, in some cases], as from a sneeze or breathing hard, or even breathing normally. They can't survive all by themselves in a dry environment. They need a damp "cocoon" in order to travel thru the air. Masks are extremely effective at blocking these relatively large droplets.

I spent almost an hour the other day with a friend from Scripps Hospital who specializes in infectious disease. Here are the basic facts about the Delta variant as of yesterday, straight from the mouth of a specialist:

Because of the efficacy of the vaccine [the two-dose types], only 1 in 5 of the positive tests are from fully vaccinated people and the great majority of these people are asymptomatic. Slightly less than 1 in 100 people hospitalized have been fully vaccinated. 99 out of 100 people hospitalized are unvaccinated. This is may be the most effective vaccine in world history.

Fully vaccinated people who carry the Delta variant but are asymptomatic are almost as capable of transmitting it to unvaccinated people as are unvaccinated people who carry the Delta variant. So if you are vaccinated but exposed to the virus, you can transmit it to unvaccinated people very easily, hence the mask requirement for vaccinated people.

The Delta variant, once it is in the body of an unvaccinated person, has the capability of multiplying at a rate---get this---1260 times faster than the original variant.

The Delta variant likes kids under the age of 18. Youngsters don't seem to have the immunity they had with the original variant.

4 weeks ago, the number of cases per day in the US had dropped to around 10,000 or less. It has been accelerating since then. Today the case count [not all states reporting] was 85,000. 83% of cases today are the Delta variant. It used to be 1%.

There is a brand new variant, the Lambda variant, that appears to have originated in Peru. It is spreading rapidly and it makes the Delta variant look tame in comparison. Will the vaccine work against it? Who knows at this point.

These data are from legitimate studies, most recently a study conducted in Israel and just released.

Check out everything I have stated above, but check it out with legitimate sources, and then make up your mind whether the Delta variant is a bunch of BS. And hang onto your hat because the Lambda variant is on the way.
This is well said. Thanks for taking the time to post. It’s worth pointing out a couple more things: 1) the Delta Variant as of yesterday now accounts for over 90% of new infections in the US, up from 83% just a week ago; 2) over 99% of deaths due to Covid are in unvaccinated persons.
Hatchet, I hope you get better quickly.
 

It is starting to look like those that got vaccinated are vulnerable.

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Umm...ya..I can confirm that..day 9..still feeling puny.
 
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