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Doc cherry, don't know ya but wouldn't unfriend you for your opinion or choice of vaxed or unvaxed !
Here is may take on the virus, like it or not ! The wife and I are two of the unvaccinated. I have never taken a Flu vaccine, do not believe in pharmaceutical fixes for sicknesses or for pain. Many years ago I was severely injured on a construction site. Had emergency surgery that day and 2 more surgeries over a 2 year period to put my face back together. The Japanese surgeon who fixed me up would not prescribe pain meds that would completely remove my suffering. His logic was that when you take maximum meds for pain or sickness you are not allowing your own bodies healing or immune system to fight back and overcome. I have carried this bit of wisdom with me ever since.

We take 5 to 6k milligrams of powdered Vitamin C everyday; not pills because of the retention rate of a 1000 mg pill is around 35%. I take my Zinc, Vitamin D, Turmeric, and regular Mens Vitamins.
I have not had the flu during the past 20+ years, when I catch a cold the symptoms are usually very limited. Enough a bout that !
As far as the mask debate; I don't wear those either unless asked. Doc cherry made a interesting comment regarding masks. He was right that dry environments are best, but when you wear a mask you are breathing out moisture into the mask and rebreathing over and over. Since the mask mandates started last year Doctors have seen a huge increase in Pleurisy especially in young kids. Pleurisy is a infection in between the linings of your lungs. Doctors believe that the rise in cases is due to the masks being worn. Not only from the moisture in the masks; but as you breath you are expending bad molecules from your body that are caught up in masks and rebreathed which you breath out to expel the bad from your lung.. Think about it, if you wear a mask all day long, how many times have you breathed in and out ? Multiply that by days weeks, and months !
Now lets talk about the mask themselves. There are no standards of lab controlled manufacturing in the making of masks. Some of the places they are made in you wouldn't wipe your arse there. They are sold everywhere, gas stations, stores, street corners with no oversight what so ever.
Now how about the tests themselves. Our daughter is a DR. for the VA in AZ; last year one of her patients came up sick and was tested positive for the covid virus. His wife called the VA to inform them of this. Since the daughter was in very close contact to this man she was asked to be tested, the test was negative. But while taking the test one of the infectious Drs stated the tests have a 30-35 % inaccuracy rate. I wasn't sure if that was normal, but the daughter stated that is "ridiculous; that most test for infectious viruses are less than 1% inaccurate. With those kinds of numbers you might as well flip a coin!"
Did you know that 0ver 700 million of these covid tests were manufactured in China ! Seeing how this virus originated there that makes me suspicious of those or any test. The daughter told me recently that there is a test where you can spit into a vial rather than have a foreign object manufactured who knows where shoved up your nose. I don't plan on taking a test if I get sick, but if was so inclined this sounds like the way to go !
Getting around to the vaccines. like many have stated "no one has all the answers." But what I do know is this ! Originally the CDC & WHO stated that if you got the vaccine you would be ok . Now not so much ! How many boosters are you willing to take for the rest of your life ? How many different variants are going to come in the coming years ? Just recently is was the Delta variant, two days ago they talked about Gamma and Lambda variants that hadn't even been heard of. But today they admit that a Gamma variant may have been brought into Florida via Colombia. Influenza type viruses have always had variants; that's why there was a new Flu vaccine produced every year. Think back to what I said earlier; your own body must learn to fight off illnesses or your immune system is not working correctly.
Do I trust the numbers that are being put out everyday ? No ! The Feds have a long history of lies and deceit ! Do I trust the numbers put out by the CDC or WHO ? No ! Remember Big Pharma; and I am not a conspiracy guy, are pushing a vaccine that has not received FDA approval! Why because normally clinical trials of 7 - 12 years are needed for approval. They want to slam a vaccine into American without the decades long standards ! Why ? For one reason and one reason only $$$$$$. If the vaccine was a one and done deal, I like many other Americans may be more inclined to receive it. But it is not !
How about the side effects, the CDC says most are mild; but what if your are the one it hurts. What if you were a perfectly healthy guy or gal and you take it and you are paralyzed, have constant medical and mental problems or.... Your family could be ruined ! Growing up in my day all kids got the Measles, Mumps, Polio shot before you started school. I never heard of someone having side effects, or God forbid got Polio. Now we don't know ! Seems like every week they come out with a new what could be dangerous or possibly fatal side effect. Recently one side effect that was discovered was paralysis. Now the DRs said most paralysis only lasted hours, some just days. But admitted that some were still paralyzed. But one of the DRs said " Well the risks of the side effects are minimal to the risk of getting the vaccine. Really ! Unless you're that guy or gal who is now possibly paralyzed for life !
I purposely saved this for last ! One of my coworkers nephews recently died. He was a healthy 23 yr. old boy. His Mom got up one morning and noticed her sons car was still in the driveway. She thought he must have overslept and would be late for week. She went to wake him to find him dead in bed. Supposedly this kid didn't drink or do drugs, This was confirmed in the Medical Examiners report, no acohol or drugs in his system. His mothers family had a history of brain aneurysms, nope didn't die of that. Heart attack, nope. They are still waiting on full report, but County is dragging their feet. One thing they do know, this kid had the vaccination 2 days before he died. Waiting to see what comes of this !
Look, I don't believe I have all the answers ! But there are some things I do know ! Sadly our government has a history of not being forthcoming and honest about things. Big Pharma corporations are out for the big bucks, they could give a rats ass about the average American. That is proven out by the many drugs that they have massed produced, lied and hid the problems with. I don't trust other countries, especially China and a whole list of others to be forthcoming in the truth.
Lastly and most important, I am fearful of what is coming in the future for this country and our world. Look at everything that is going on, not just with the Covid, but society in general. So many thing are so backwards and crazy. How people treat each other, killings, assaults, muggings, domestic violence. The crumbling of societal norms, "one day things that are wrong will be called right and things that are right will be called wrong." Im not sure our world can take much more; with that said, "Maranatha !!! May God watch over you all !!!
 
Fun fact for you all.. had the Rona 1 year ago...I got vaccinated 3.5 months ago...I came down with the Delta (confirmed) last Friday...I'm flatbacked sick as fuck as I type..I can promise you dudes one thing ..the Rona is real..may not get ya..but it's out there...
Sorry sorry to hear this, hang in hoping for a full recovery. Good luck, God Bless.
 
Sorry sorry to hear this, hang in hoping for a full recovery. Good luck, God Bless.
Right on man...the Rona is real..just gotta take it like a man! Or a bitch...which I gotta admit...when you aren't moving air and are gasping like a guppy...it tends to become real quick..and the bitchness takes over..on the mend now folks!! Get your shots!!! Or not!! the Rona does not discriminate..that's a fact.
 
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No one knows what's going on and we won't for many years after this. If your at risk stay home and all the other stuff to stay safe.

As for me I will not get the jab and go about my day as normal, it's just another wave and it will pass for a newer one to replace it. It should be more contagious higher case numbers, but less lethal, if it turns more deadly then lockdowns should help but we're not there YET.........I don't think we were ever there, can't protect everybody that's just not possible.
Sometimes mother nature is better left alone and we should not create an experimental way of fighting an illness.....the rna treatment hasn't work for aids in the last 20 years but they got this ONE right, right out of the box?????

I've had it twice first one in 1/20 no fever, 3 weeks of body aches, short of breath and tired all the time, second wave for me was in 1/21 with short of breath and that was all no fever or anything else felt like I was at treeline trying to tie my boots up for a week.

What's gonna happen when we get hit by a real global killer where 20% die not 2%.
Your first sentence is the most truthful thing out there.

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I think nature, or the Chinese started the virus to do a little population control, then scientists came up with a vaccine and the virus said, not so fast guys , lets see what you do when you get lots of variants put in front of you. I'm nature and I want lots of you gone., way to many of you and not enough natural resources. 'll just keep changing the rules. I'll win. That's just my take on the whole virus situation.
I think you may be on to something, Gundoglover. Whenever any organism grows in numbers beyond the carrying capacity of its environment, Ma Nature steps in, and she can be a cruel bitch. That has happened literally millions of times in the history of the planet and there is no reason why it won't happen to humans now. It's interesting, too, that the scientists and those in the know a year ago stated absolutely that there was no way that covid started in a lab. Today they aren't nearly so sure.
 
Hoping mother nature is kind to me...I've got bucks to slaughter...and the occasional swine...I hate swine.
 
Hoping mother nature is kind to me...I've got bucks to slaughter...and the occasional swine...I hate swine.

Maybe she is getting back at you for allowing a non-fork to live??? Please tell me you didn't let any 3+ point freaks live?
 
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As far as I know..every 3 pointer on the mountain has been massacred..every now and then one trys to sneak in from the neighbors and KAPOOW. Good night nurse...homie don't play that game.
 

I have a huge amount of respect for you, sir. You have the guts to speak your mind, knowing full well that some people will disagree with you and some may even attack you, hiding behind their computer screens. It seems today, regardless of which side of the aisle you are on, if you say anything that anyone disagrees with, you have a big red bullseye on your forehead and everyone takes a shot.

You are absolutely entitled to your opinions on this matter but I am willing to bet that those who are not vaccinated will soon be very restricted in where they can go and what they can do. We'll have to wait and see.

Be well and don't hesitate for a moment to sound off when you have something to say.
 
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I'm practicing to be the next Larry, though his shoes are perhaps too large for me to fill. Here goes:

I'd like to tell you my favorite frog leg recipe. I call it "Frog Leg Fondue." It was originally quite lengthy, but I've trimmed it down to only 371 pages. There are 6,431 steps.

Step 1---Kill a bunch of frogs
Step 2---Skin a bunch of frogs
Step 3---Extract the semen from a male coyote at the height of the rut
Step 4-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
Thanks doc... positive vibes go along ways!!
Just as a matter of academic curiosity, do you have periods where you smell burning rubber or the burning brakes on an 18 wheeler? No joke here, but it seems that some people experience this weird sensation in addition to loss of smell.

On the bright side, your posts seem to show that you are in control of your faculties. My posts, on the other hand, seem to show that my faculties have been flushed down the shitter. [Steve---Is "Shitter" an allowed word on this forum? Seems like since so many people talk about the US Government that the word "shitter" would come up so often that you'd let it slide.]
 
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