If you talk to MTBRs they are a bunch of deer through the OC in the Cleveland, around Irvine Lake and BSA camp, RSM and Whiting Ranch and Oneil Park. I have game cameras out and have shots of deer and long tail and a bunch of MTBRs and hikers.
I dont fear the hike in, just the hike out if I am carrying something big....
Maybe someone can ping Roy to review this thread and at the same time post his credentials on the articles he has written about mule deer in major publications. Not only that but his many year experience of killing Pacific Hybrids. I feel like he would agree with the majority here.
Tony apparently is the foremost authority on mule deer. Looking back at all of his history of posts we might just be dealing with a troll here.