I heard that same Podcast and it didn't sound right. It seems all of the fires here in SoCal have been arson related so I looked it up. Turns out "campfires" produce 5% of the total forest fire ignitors. That is before you break down the difference between a normal camper and a hunter. My guess is hunters are not the lion share of that number. Fires started by arson, wait for it, 21%. Fires started by debris burn 21%. Why did this guy lie on the Podcast?